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A Newbie ask questions section!! 18 Dec 2013 07:29 #36251

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Hi Forum boss...

Would it be possible to have a guilt free ask what might be seen as stupid questions segment? I have questions that are important to me, and how I learn new technology, and it would be helpful to be able to have asection that is separate from the main FCP X section, where newbies can ask questions, maybe even find answers!!

I know some of my upcoming questions are important to me, maybe be of use to others.

I did ask of various people if it was possible to produce a total dummies video guide to setup of FCP X, of using external hard drives, of how to daisy chain, so far no news on this.

Yes it might seem logical to some, to me, it is a world of hurt, confusing terms, and incorrect set ups, leading to swear words and name calling, ie "my hunk of junk 2013 rMBP!!!" Is it a hunk of junk, or bad set up??

I know it is a lot to ask, I need material to practice on, to get skills, you need to do projects, and out here there are no projects, I do not have a video camera, just the laptop, I am looking for ways to learn cutting various types of interviews, short muic clips, at this point I am looking more towards television news editing as that is what we have here, and I freelance at the national broadcaster here, if I was able to prove I was "fast" enough, that is be proficient and able to craft a decent insert and not have to slow down to figure things out, there could be a future for me, right now I do not possess the speed required and I do not really have any way other than PeachPit Press exercis material.

Any ideas?
Justine
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A Newbie ask questions section!! 18 Dec 2013 08:44 #36257

"… I do not have a video camera…"
That sounds to me a bit 'exotic' - learning editing without 'raw' material?? :ohmy:

Hi Justine,
I'm not the forum boss, nor a 'pro' (I'd like to call myself 'enthusiastic hobbyist') - but I do teach some adults & kids basics about moviemaking, incl. iMovie and FCPX. So, when I read your request for a new noobies-section, it sounds to me, you don't begin at the start, but somewhere in the middle. :lol:

'Interviews for broadcasters' - it's not just pushing the right button; it's a lot about 'film language', way beyond (or before…) some software.

For first steps, there's no need for an elaborated, multi-drive set-up (separate media-drives, back-up strategy , etc etc). Second, i's good to learn with a 'project' of your interests, but it is never a good idea to start with a real project (everyone has in his track-record a 'epic wedding-video fail' :silly: ).

What I want to say:
Learn from point zero!
The three top entires in this book list
www.fcp.co/final-cut-pro/news/1298-the-t...-pro-x-books-of-2013
is perfect for those who prefer written advice.

Or, for more 'show'n tell'-orientated persons - like me - there's izzyvideo, Larry Jordan, ripple training.
The last, Mark and Steve, offer more than 200 short tutorials on YouTube or as video-podcast on your AppleTV (I spend many nights, just watching and listening).

And…
when you finally had inhaled the correct nomenclature, you could ask the experts here at fcp.co - there are so many helpful souls here, ronny, ben, tom, just to mention a few… expertised trainers, helping for free! …  But, as said, you should learn a bit of terminology - for remote advice, it makes things easier and faster.

How to edit (not software, but art), is a completely different cup of tea/coffee/beer. #4 in the book list is a good start.-

final word:
I don't believe, a forum can replace basic learning.
And I don't believe, anybody gets crazy, when you (or I) ask 'silly' questions here.
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A Newbie ask questions section!! 18 Dec 2013 08:56 #36259

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Hi Karsten,

I am not a newbie in terms of editing, 12 years as a freelance video editor for the national broadcaster, I am a newbie when it comes to non-linear, previously I used Betacam SP and DVCPRO, tape to tape systems.

I know how to craft the story, drives me insane when I see what is produced today, not what I would be proud to produce. I am having a very hard time translating from tape based thinking into the non linear digital way of working.

My method is not ideal, granted, it is all I have, making the best I can with what I have, I wish you could have seen me in the tape days, I was really good as a video editor, I have no idea why it ended.

I can speak volumes on my methods I used during the 2000's as a video editor, if I was not good, why was I rehired for 12 years???

Thanks for the advice
Justine
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A Newbie ask questions section!! 18 Dec 2013 09:35 #36262

" … 12 years as a freelance video editor for the national broadcaster, …"

ooopps, sorry, Justine, me lost in translation, no offense meant calling you a 'noobie' ... :oops:

In my professional years, I was a sort of 'producer', so the idiot standing behind you while editing; in the 80ies, U-matic was widely in use. And I remember well, those experienced 'cutters' had to do a giant leap, when non-linear-editing araised on the horizon.

Nowadays, some kiddies, grown up at a Playstation, do a 4 days trainee, and then start working - INDEED, what you see on TV is mostly … horrid! (yeah, old man glorifying yesterday)

but, to come back to topic:
I'm not shy asking my 'dumb' beginners question - here, at support.apple.com or at a few other places (indeed, there are very little 'other', in terms of 'as good as fcp.co'). Only thing I noticed:

FinalCut is a pro-software - so, fora designated to FC ask for some minimum of expertise - terminology, proactive use of Manuals/help files/google - and, and this is meant esp. for FCPX, some very… hum, how to say it? … open mind for 'new' workflows/processes.

e.g. when you're an editor-Silverback ;) , you probably think in 'bins':
one scene has one 'place'/sorting-scheme.

Totally different in FCPX: all sorts of meta-data plus applying as many key-words you like and need for 'filtering'. A computer is always faster in 'sorting' than any human. So, one scene can hang on 3 or 5 or 11 'bins', overlapping, mixing etc.-

… so, maybe I know a lil' more about some fundamental use of some software, but you know much more about the art of editing! … looking forward to your contributions!

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A Newbie ask questions section!! 18 Dec 2013 09:48 #36264

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Usually the one person who had not a single clue on how to actually construct a story, want what is not going to work, takes offense when I tell them it is not going to work, then when I get upset, fires me!!!

I hated working with "producers" or journalists, leave the script, the tapes and your voicer tape, I will do it!! If someone was in the room, I had the feeling I was being judged, and I battled to concentrate.

Maybe it was this inability to play nicely with others that killed off my career as a video editor, I have no idea, it ended suddenly, not over pay or anything like that, just "You are no longer required", mid contract!!!

This was in 2009, what I fear most is that I am just reaching that age where I am too old to be a junior and too young to be retired...I have loads to contribute, just how I am going to get back into television news video editing I have no idea...

I am going over the exercises again, trying to figure things out, all the time wondering am I wasting my money on the electric to power the "hunk of junk"??
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A Newbie ask questions section!! 18 Dec 2013 10:08 #36265

hahaha, we spent a lot of time in the same room! :evil:
" … all the time wondering am I wasting my money on the electric to power the "hunk of junk"?? … "

ahhhh, I smell bad vibes :silly:
think again about 'open minded' ...

believe it or not: my 13y old uses FCPX - after a 10min intro of mine, "shut up, Dad, me no stupid!" … open minded as a kid, unburdened with "I did for 20y, it HAS to work!!" ...
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A Newbie ask questions section!! 18 Dec 2013 10:56 #36270

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Hi Justine,

I don't think there's any need for a "newbie" section. In fact were are all newbies when it comes to FCPX because none of us have much more than two years of experience with it ;)

Feel free to ask any questions, even the most basic ones, and I'm sure you will find an answer here. This is one of the best help forums you can find on the web, and the people here are incredibly helpful and polite. The only thing that can get some of us nervous is when you start criticizing a software that works well for all of us to try and defend some obvious mistakes you will make as a beginner.

Making beginner mistakes is normal. If I had one dollar for every user error I have made in my 37 years in the television industry I would probably OWN Apple by now :P Rants on the other hand are completely useless as they do not contribute to anything. Any software can always be improved, and any suggestions for future improvements in FCPX are only effective when you send them directly to Apple via the feedback page. I can assure you they take any suggestion seriously.

- Ronny
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A Newbie ask questions section!! 18 Dec 2013 14:18 #36283

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Hi Justine.

People are always hired due to their technical skills. And fired due to their personality skills :-)

Maybe you are a Highly sensitive person. Have a look at this site: www.hsperson.com/pages/test.htm
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I know I am highly sensitive person, the problem is Human Resources, when it comes to apllying for jobs, despite what I have done, I am never hired.

Nothing wrong with my skills, just my interaction with people, apparently this is more important than actual ability..Be a team player...as if I can be that!!

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I want to be paid as a video editor, if I wanted to be paid as a team player, I would have played sports!!!
HR make up your mind, do you want the job done, or someone that plays nice at team-building exercises??

Justine...PS I am available for hire..
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A Newbie ask questions section!! 18 Dec 2013 18:58 #36348

MsJustine wrote:
I want to be paid as a video editor, if I wanted to be paid as a team player, I would have played sports!!!.

… comes on my list of phrases, excellent :lol:

Hopefully, you just 'forgot' to add an irony-smiley…
Movie-making is a team-sport.

There're tons of editors avail, and daily more.
So, if you have the choice btw a good editor who's an a***,
and a good editor who's playing nice… ?

What I've learned:
it needs time to proof your excellence - and meanwhile doing so, you should smile.
No use being grumpy.
A good 'atmosphere' is essentiell for a good result - ask your next soccer-team :woohoo:
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