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Perform Slip Edit without Mouse/Trackpad? 20 Aug 2018 20:45 #96867

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Trying to perform a slip edit without using the mouse or trackpad.

i understand that you can do this if you have the Trim tool selected, and then click on a clip. It will highlight only the front and end edit points of the clip, instead of the whole clip (it'll have yellow bars on the front and end of the clip instead of a yellow border around the whole clip)

From there you can just press , or . to judge left and right.

However, this all involves me having to use the track pad or mouse to select the clip first while I have the Trim tool selected.

Is there no way to select the clip with the Trim tool to only select the front and end edit points? I know if I press 'C' while my playhead is over a clip, it will select the whole clip. But that's not what I want. I want to only select the front and end edit points so I can perform a Slip edit instead of nudging the entire clip left or right
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Perform Slip Edit without Mouse/Trackpad? 21 Aug 2018 05:34 #96871

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Couldn't find this command either. Anybody else?

Why would anyone care? Because for some people it's easier to use the keyboard, and it's certainly faster once you know the shortcuts by heart and type without even looking. Then any need to point with the mouse and having to click is a distraction. Since you had to touch the mouse anyway, you can as well click-drag the content to perform the slip edit. That's certainly an inconvenience.

There are quite a few instances where the mouse is faster and more intuitive, like clip skimming, but it puzzles me why I then see the red clip skimmer active, but a clip wouldn't play solo in realtime with space or L. So whereas you can do everything with the mouse alone (in theory, nobody would go to the top menu every time, because then you'd be really slow) you can only use the keyboard in ~ 80% of all actions.

You could use a third party command editor (or Automator? - don't know) and assign "t + click" to a new shortcut. I tried this once. I thought, wouldn't it be nice to compound a whole sequence of redundant commands to just one (like macros in PS)? Intriguing, but not so easy.
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Perform Slip Edit without Mouse/Trackpad? 21 Aug 2018 10:54 #96872

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Basically you want to be able to move from clip to clip in the timeline without using the cursor. That would be nice. But you'll never do 100 percent keyboard work with any app. As said, some thing will always be faster with the mouse. Always taught my students to be two handed editors, on on the keyboard, one on the mouse. If a keyboard command takes two hands, it's a time waster. But being able to move from clip to clip with keyboard strokes in the Timeline, that would be nice to have.

BTW, at NAB two years ago Steve Martin from Ripple Training did a presentation on this very subject. Most of it was workarounds, the rest key commands that were sort of awkward, but he sort of did it, "sort of". It was an experiment, and I think a call to Apple to implement this ability.

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Perform Slip Edit without Mouse/Trackpad? 21 Aug 2018 13:23 #96873

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Axel wrote:
You could use a third party command editor (or Automator? - don't know) and assign "t + click" to a new shortcut.


Wouldn't work either, because not the clip the playhead is on gets selected (and if you are navigating with keys you will have the playhead) but the one the pointer is over. Pointer becomes a clips-skimming trim-tool, even if you had disabled clip skimming.

FCPX.guru wrote:
Always taught my students to be two handed editors, on on the keyboard, one on the mouse. If a keyboard command takes two hands, it's a time waster.


I agree. One shouldn't become a keyboard nazi. And there are many examples when using the mouse is faster:

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But being able to move from clip to clip with keyboard strokes in the Timeline, that would be nice to have.


This for instance. Using the skimmer to quickly get to a certain clip in your timeline is many times faster than using any of the keyboard commands. Does anyone ever type "ctrl+d > + 30. >Return"?
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Perform Slip Edit without Mouse/Trackpad? 21 Aug 2018 13:52 #96874

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bradywurtz wrote:
Trying to perform a slip edit without using the mouse or trackpad....

I can't find a keyboard shortcut which selects both edges of a clip while in trim mode. Once you select such a clip, you can move left/right to other clips via CMD+left arrow or CMD+right arrow, but I can't see a keyboard command to select left and right edges of a given clip -- IOW equivalent to clicking on a clip while in trim mode.

In MacBreak Studio #434 "Mouseless Editing in FCPX", they cover several similar methods, but not this:

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Perform Slip Edit without Mouse/Trackpad? 21 Aug 2018 17:41 #96877

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When your playhead is on an edit point, the [ and ] keys will select which side to do a ripple edit to, and < and > will do editing one frame at a time. The \ key will select both sides to do a roll edit.

But if you want to use that on a clip below another, tough, you'll have to use your cursor to select that clip.
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Perform Slip Edit without Mouse/Trackpad? 21 Aug 2018 18:34 #96878

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FCPX.guru wrote:
When your playhead is on an edit point, the [ and ] keys will select which side to do a ripple edit to, and < and > will do editing one frame at a time. The \ key will select both sides to do a roll edit.

But if you want to use that on a clip below another, tough, you'll have to use your cursor to select that clip.

I know those shortcuts. Unfortunately I’m not trying to do a ripple edit or a roll edit. Trying to do a slip edit
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Perform Slip Edit without Mouse/Trackpad? 21 Aug 2018 20:00 #96879

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Yes, I know, I was responding to the post previous to mine.
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