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TOPIC: Voice Over Tool Issues. Can't Get Volume Up, Weird False Peaking On Waveforms

Voice Over Tool Issues. Can't Get Volume Up, Weird False Peaking On Waveforms 07 Jan 2019 23:27 #98422

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Hey everyone. I've started using the voiceover feature and love how it works with the auditions and such, but am having some issues that I can't figure out.

I'm using an iMac pro with an Audient id22 interface and a Sennheiser MKE 416 shotgun mic, and this works fantastic on its own using external software. It works fairly well through FCPX, but I find that the audio levels really screwy and the sound quality is not fantastic compared to recording externally.

For instance, to get the volume reasonable, I have to crank up the gain on my interface, but the level indicator in FCPX has no level numbers. So I crank everything up until I start to hit yellow then back off a bit, and record. The audio is only coming in about -12, so should be perfect right? But I'm eating the mic and the proximity effect is gone. The audio sounds tinny and muffled. Not drastic, but not as nice as I'm used to. I crank it up to about +8db in FCPX so that when played back, the audio levels are -2 to -4, and the waveforms show red everywhere. The meters show it's not peaking, but the waveforms are totally lit up. What gives?

Also, with my mic and interface, I typically don't need ANY post on VO, but it seems like FCPX is messing with my audio quality. Is that normal?

I'm leaving on the 17th to Texas, to do a two day remote VO session with the host, so ZI want to make sure I have this system worked ahead of time. The backup plan will be to just record to external files, but if I can swing it, I'd like to use the FCPX voice over function, since we don't have a final cut or script yet, and we need to use what we have to finalize the VO.

Any ideas her?
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Voice Over Tool Issues. Can't Get Volume Up, Weird False Peaking On Waveforms 08 Jan 2019 05:08 #98426

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Sounds like the mic needs phantom power.
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Voice Over Tool Issues. Can't Get Volume Up, Weird False Peaking On Waveforms 08 Jan 2019 06:24 #98427

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FCPX.guru wrote:
Sounds like the mic needs phantom power.

Apparently the waveforms turn red at -6 but are not clipped, while the levels turn red at 0. As from eh mic, it does require phantom power but that's on. The GUI is just a little lacking in the fcpx VO, so it's a trial an error thing. I'm not sure about the sound though. I wonder if FCPX is running the mic through some kind of processor instead of just taking the very clean signal from the id22.
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Voice Over Tool Issues. Can't Get Volume Up, Weird False Peaking On Waveforms 08 Jan 2019 13:48 #98429

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I do VOs daily, have for many years, FCPX has never been anything but spot on for me. I'm not familiar with the Audient id22 so can't speak to that unit. I have used the Sennheiser MKE 416 at one time. It's a shotgun, not the best option for VO work. Getting right up on it defeats it's pick-up pattern. You want to get back from it a bit. It should pick up nicely. Try a little off center, perhaps? The mic, though not first choice for VO, should work just fine. FCPX works just fine for VO work, as i do it daily, have for years, with a variety of mics, no issues. Not sure about the Audient unit. And you don't want to clip VO work. And you want to be back from the mic, not up on it, you do not want proximity effect. If you're close enough for that, you're too close. Swaying, moving to and fro, that will all give bad fluctuations in your level and and could give inconsistent characteristics.

Check in the Audio/MIDI Setup app and see how your interface is getting along with the OS.
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