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TOPIC: convert AVI files for editing in FCPX

convert AVI files for editing in FCPX 05 Jan 2015 01:19 #57978

I have and tried several converters to get AVI files converted to be able to be edited in FCPX. Im not having any luck so far.

what I have tried and the converters - AVI to H264 and pro rez

with squeeze, toast, mpeg 5, & brorsoft.

What do need to convert AVI for FCPX editing? Any help out there?
Thanks!!!!
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convert AVI files for editing in FCPX 27 Jan 2015 09:36 #58919

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Try Wondershare Video Converter and Adobe Media Encoder.
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convert AVI files for editing in FCPX 27 Jan 2015 10:57 #58921

Gary Boland wrote:
... What do need to convert AVI for FCPX editing? Any help out there?

avi is, as mov or mp4 or mts or.. , just another media-container.

If the content fullfills FCPX' needs, a simple re-packign can solve your problem.
If the content is some 'alien' codec, you have to convert.

An excellent tool for codec-analysis is this free one:
www.iffmpeg.com/iMediaHUD/

After DL and install, just drag the stubborn avi onto it, and post iMediaHUDs findings here...
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convert AVI files for editing in FCPX 29 Jan 2015 03:28 #58998

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well, first, you should figure out what the codec in this "AVI" use MediaInfo, then try to convert them . I suggest you try this video convrter from pav. It may work for you. But I am still waiting for its support for H.265
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convert AVI files for editing in FCPX 15 Dec 2016 14:22 #84015

Hi i just got a camera that seems to only shoot in AVI and am trying to import in fcpx.

Tried using the file converter in VLC to convert to Mp4/.mov but FCPx didn't accept it (in fact, whenever i tried to open the folder that the converted file in was in in FCP import, FCP crashed lol- idk why). There was alot of options i could have chosen but i don't have any idea which options i should choose (if any).

I ran a video through the Media Info app to analyze the file and have attached the results.

Am new to all of this codec and format stuff, could somebody please advise what to do here? Like how to do it in VLC or any other software to convert it... preferably a free/low cost solution that is quick/easy (and if it could be done in bulk and/or automatically that would be a big plus, as I'm planning to continue using this camera and would appreciate a fast workflow)

Also- as i was reading into this i saw some people talk about losing video/audio quality when converting- is that something to be concerned about? Can it be converted without losing quality?

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convert AVI files for editing in FCPX 15 Dec 2016 15:17 #84022

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Convert to ProRes if possible.
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convert AVI files for editing in FCPX 15 Dec 2016 15:40 #84025

dans.klimkowski wrote:
…I ran a video through the Media Info app to analyze the file and have attached the results.…

That material doesn't need to be converted, just sticks in the wrong wrapper.

Open it with MpegStreamclip, go to 'Save as' and in the drop down menu choose mov (or mp4, doesn't matter).
Another helpful tool, specialized in Rewrapping, is the free tool REMUX, which is a bit difficult to find, on its original source it was deleted …

And, no, just renaming the suffix from avi to mov doesn't do the trick…
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convert AVI files for editing in FCPX 15 Dec 2016 16:27 #84034

FCPX.guru wrote:
Convert to ProRes if possible.

Why? is that much better than converting to mov or mp4?

Karsten Schlüter wrote:
dans.klimkowski wrote:
…I ran a video through the Media Info app to analyze the file and have attached the results.…

That material doesn't need to be converted, just sticks in the wrong wrapper.

Open it with MpegStreamclip, go to 'Save as' and in the drop down menu choose mov (or mp4, doesn't matter).
Another helpful tool, specialized in Rewrapping, is the free tool REMUX, which is a bit difficult to find, on its original source it was deleted …

And, no, just renaming the suffix from avi to mov doesn't do the trick…

Thank you. I downloaded MpegStreamclip and am having issues with it.

After putting the file in MpegStreamclip (i tried both using file> Open files and dragging the file into the window on two seperate occassions), i tried doing file> save as... then changing the option of format to mp4 and got this message:

Error: the movie can't be saved in this format

When i tried changing it to MOV, it saved successfully, but FCP or quicktime still cant open it.

I also tried File> export to quicktime
and file> export to other formats and selecting mov from there
And in both of these cases it saved successfully and FCP and quicktime could open it but it was only a black screen.


Any idea whats going on?
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convert AVI files for editing in FCPX 15 Dec 2016 21:11 #84046

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The cheapest way to trascode a video in H264 format ( mp4 ) is use a powerful and free software: "handbrake". but if you want rewrapping or transcoding into ProRes to edit in FCPX or other non linear editors the best tools I know are those of "divergent media": Clipwrap or EditReady.
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convert AVI files for editing in FCPX 16 Dec 2016 06:41 #84051

dans.klimkowski wrote:
…Any idea whats going on?

nope.
your MediaInfo-dump doesn't list any 'special', imho a completely standards conform h264 encoded video … odd.

… the wrapper, AVI does the harm …
(just some background: avi, mov, mp4 = wrappers/media containers, h264, proRes, mpeg4 = codecs. all those codecs can stick in any mentioned before wrapper. h264>>proRes=a long&lossy conversion, h264.avi>>h264.mov = fast&lossfree rewrapping)

Any chance to use a Windows based machine to 'convert'/rewrap that naughty file?

Plan C
your file is tiny, 2MB, tried any online-converters? (yep, I'm shy too uploading 'private' media to those)
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convert AVI files for editing in FCPX 01 Jan 2017 14:54 #84443

Thanks for all the help everybody.

I got it to work with handbrake, but now that i'm editing the videos, it seems that any of the videos taken with this camera are taking a long time to play in the timeline or browser. I mean, normally (with other cameras), when i click on a point in the timeline it will jump to that point and start playing there instantaneously, but with this camera it sometimes takes a few seconds to start playing at that point. its inconsistent- sometimes it loads instantly but sometimes the spinning circle will come up.

Is there any reason why the converted file would be slowing down FCP? Is there any solution to make it go the same speed as normal?

(btw have been converting to MP4 H.264 and am using a maxed out 5k imac)
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convert AVI files for editing in FCPX 01 Jan 2017 23:05 #84453

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dans.klimkowski wrote:
....I got it to work with handbrake, but...are taking a long time to play in the timeline or browser...Is there any reason why the converted file would be slowing down FCP? Is there any solution to make it go the same speed as normal?...

I don't know why it does that. Your info indicates 1080p H264 within an AVI wrapper. In general I suggest using EditReady: www.divergentmedia.com/editready

It can re-wrap much faster than transcoding methods -- just select "rewrap" as the method, since it can also transcode. Since you plan on using this camera a lot in the future that will come in handy. They have a free trial you can examine. I use EditReady frequently on AVCHD and older AVI material.
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convert AVI files for editing in FCPX 02 Jan 2017 06:04 #84463

for re-wrapping, I use this free tool
www.macupdate.com/app/mac/35968/remux/download

blazing fast.
for sure works only if the codec inside the wrapper is standard-conform, and when I read .avi, I say oh ooh ;)
(those Windows tinkerers often use strange codecs&combos)
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convert AVI files for editing in FCPX 02 Jan 2017 13:23 #84469

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I know not everyone has the luxury, but if a client hands me an AVI, I refuse to touch it. Even Microsoft doesn't actively support AVI any longer, haven't in many years. Man, I have AVI like you wouldn't believe. But so many folks insist on using it. My kid's drones record video with AVI. Fortunately, it's in a format Compressor handles easily into ProRes.

Find a good AVI converter, like Karsten suggest, and convert it before anything else. Preferably into ProRes if possible.

Am I the only one finding this new color scheme in the forums hard on my eyes?
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convert AVI files for editing in FCPX 02 Jan 2017 17:25 #84488

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joema wrote:
dans.klimkowski wrote:
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I don't know why it does that. Your info indicates 1080p H264 within an AVI wrapper. In general I suggest using EditReady: www.divergentmedia.com/editready.

Unless I missed something in the description of EditReady, I don't see any indication that it deals with AVI wrappers. Does the latest version indeed handle these?
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convert AVI files for editing in FCPX 02 Jan 2017 19:05 #84493

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dgwvideo wrote:
joema wrote:
...Unless I missed something in the description of EditReady, I don't see any indication that it deals with AVI wrappers. Does the latest version indeed handle these?

I think you are correct. Thanks for catching that. I will do more testing later to confirm.
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convert AVI files for editing in FCPX 03 Jan 2017 22:54 #84529

Thanks again for the help everybody.

I'm a bit confused- should i be re-wrapping the file in addition to converting/transcoding it in handbrake (after converting from avi to mp4)? Or is re-wrapping an alternative to converting/transcoding? I haven't tried either of those programs yet- will they definitely work to make the converted avi video load faster? or is it just something i need to try to see?

I'm wondering if it might just be easier to return this camera and go with fcp format friendly cameras instead in the future
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convert AVI files for editing in FCPX 04 Jan 2017 04:33 #84530

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Re-wrapping and transcoding are two different things for different purposes. In your case, re-wrapping your file will place the video codec into a more useable container, i.e. MP4 that will be easily recognized by FCPX. Once that is done, if you can playback the file with reasonable efficiency in your FCPX timeline, there would be no reason to transcode it to Prores 422. If you find that playback of the highly compressed MP4 file stutters then transcoding to Prores 422 will create a more efficient file that takes less computer resources to play back smoothly (at the cost of a much larger file size). At the moment, since your AVI file is not directly recognizable by FCPX, re-wrapping is the first step to take.

As far as the camera goes, if it were me and I had the opportunity to return it, I certainly would. Unless you have some specific need for that particular camera, the AVI files it creates are probably more trouble than it's worth. Most modern cameras will record in FCPX friendly codecs (with some exceptions). Here is a link to Apple's supported cameras for use with FCPX: support.apple.com/en-us/HT204203
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convert AVI files for editing in FCPX 04 Jan 2017 13:07 #84534

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"I'm wondering if it might just be easier to return this camera and go with fcp format friendly cameras instead in the future"

Hell Yes! I'd personally not trust a camera that records AVI. Something very wrong with that.
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dans.klimkowski wrote:
Hi i just got a camera that seems to only shoot in AVI and am trying to import in fcpx....Tried using the file converter in VLC to convert....

Could you review why you are converting it in the first place? Will FCPX not import the AVI file directly? I have various AVI files it will import, but AVI is just a wrapper format so there are probably some it won't handle.

If it will import your files, how does it handle those? If it is slow or sluggish, what if FCPX transcodes to proxy or optimized media upon import? Does that make it better?

If FCPX will not import your AVI files then you obviously must transcode or rewrap to a compatible format, but the first step is evaluating whether FCPX will import those directly.

If the codec within your AVI files is H264, then some utility might rewrap those which would be faster than transcoding. I initially thought EditReady would do that, but I guess not.

Here is a brief tutorial on codecs and container formats:

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