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BruceX: Try this new Final Cut Pro X benchmark 21 Dec 2013 20:29 #36876

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I've been working on souping up my original MacPro 2006 (1,1). Started with quad core 2.66, and for $50 on ebay, made it a 8 core 2.66. I then used this app oemden.com/?page_id=585 to install Mavericks which was super easy. Here are the results combined with 10.1.

MacPro 2006 1,1
12GB RAM
Internal SATA 7200RPM 1tb Drive
Radeon 5770 1GB VRAM
8 core 2.66

BruceX on FCPX 10.0.9 and 10.7.5 (ProRes) -- 2 min 52 seconds (or 172 seconds)

BruceX on FCPX 10.1 and 10.9.1 (ProRes) -- 1 min 31 seconds (or 91 seconds)

So it is about TWICE as fast. Wozers.
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BruceX: Try this new Final Cut Pro X benchmark 21 Dec 2013 22:05 #36883

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Well now, look at this. I added another Radeon 5770 in there and a bit more Ram:

MacPro 2006 1,1
18GB RAM
Internal SATA 7200RPM 1tb Drive
2x Radeon 5770 1GB VRAM
8 core 2.66

BruceX on FCPX 10.1 and 10.9.1 (ProRes) -- 55 seconds

It looks like 10.1 us in fact using two Radeon graphics cards. Cool!
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BruceX: Try this new Final Cut Pro X benchmark 22 Dec 2013 00:16 #36897

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tpayton wrote:
Well now, look at this. I added another Radeon 5770 in there and a bit more Ram:

MacPro 2006 1,1
18GB RAM
Internal SATA 7200RPM 1tb Drive
2x Radeon 5770 1GB VRAM
8 core 2.66

BruceX on FCPX 10.1 and 10.9.1 (ProRes) -- 55 seconds

It looks like 10.1 us in fact using two Radeon graphics cards. Cool!

That is very cool!!! Excellent news!!!
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BruceX: Try this new Final Cut Pro X benchmark 22 Dec 2013 00:43 #36900

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Not an ace, most of my work is simply CK work and more recently basic colour correction and compositing.

But, I do run some pretty large 1080p jobs 2-3 times a year for my kids productions which run about 2 hours of footage from 2-3 cameras and multiple audio sources, lots of transitions etc and it's here that having the grunt is sanity saving.

Regarding your 7950 vs 5780 question, I have both and will run Bruce's benchmark on both over the weekend and we'll see what the result is. I am pretty confident that the 5K benchmark doesn't really hit CPU OR disk that hard (it writes less than 20MB/sec, more than easily managed by a HDD), so this should be a great test.

I'm anxiously awaiting results of this. What Mac Pro do you have? My 2009 Mac Pro is getting beat by others results and the only upgrades that I'm interested in putting into this machine to give it some life is a 7970 3GB and an SSD. Beyond that it's time to get rid of it soon. I really want to see if spending a couple hundred dollars on a new GPU is really going to afford me much benefit...however as others have shown, if I pop another 5870 in my machine, FCPX can use both and will probably give me a good boost as well.
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BruceX: Try this new Final Cut Pro X benchmark 22 Dec 2013 01:35 #36902

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tpayton, that is so cool! Well done on squeezing some more life out of "Old Ironsides". I mentioned this being possible on another thread, but I'm glad you proved it.

Is your geekbench score around 10500ish? Interested to find out. Nice job!
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BruceX: Try this new Final Cut Pro X benchmark 22 Dec 2013 04:35 #36909

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Actually I have a brand new maxed out iMac on its way to my office. I just have 2 of the original Macpros that I was hoping to have a decent edit station at home.

Geek bench 32 bit score : 9793
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BruceX: Try this new Final Cut Pro X benchmark 22 Dec 2013 05:09 #36910

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tpayton wrote:
Geek bench 32 bit score : 9793

That's a totally respectable score. In 64 bit it would likely be close to 11000. And 55 seconds on the BruceX ain't too shabby either. My rMBP 2012 gets just over 12800 in 64bit geekbench.

Kudos to Apple for making eight year old computers that are still useful. (With a couple Scotty like modifications.)

That said, it's only making the decision to get the new photon torpedo that much easier. Yikes, that's two Star Trek references in one post...
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BruceX: Try this new Final Cut Pro X benchmark 22 Dec 2013 10:15 #36935

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Does selecting Bruce X and using the Send to Compressor function to Compressor 4.1 produce a SBOD when you try to add outputs? Have to force quit the app with this project.
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BruceX: Try this new Final Cut Pro X benchmark 27 Dec 2013 17:22 #37432

Using
Late 2008 Mac Pro
32GB Ram
SSD bootdrive
HD 7950 Mac edition
10.9.1
FCPX 10.1

BruceX time: 50.6 secs.

Now how do I cram 2x 7950?
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BruceX: Try this new Final Cut Pro X benchmark 27 Dec 2013 19:03 #37438

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Brooklyntreez wrote:
Using
Late 2008 Mac Pro
32GB Ram
SSD bootdrive
HD 7950 Mac edition
10.9.1
FCPX 10.1

BruceX time: 50.6 secs.

Now how do I cram 2x 7950?

I assume you exported a ProRes and not h.264?
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BruceX: Try this new Final Cut Pro X benchmark 27 Dec 2013 19:23 #37441

Was having problems, so I rendered the scene and used that a estimate.
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BruceX: Try this new Final Cut Pro X benchmark 27 Dec 2013 20:04 #37446

Just did the full ProRes export using BruceX it and it finished at 47secs.
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BruceX: Try this new Final Cut Pro X benchmark 27 Dec 2013 23:17 #37460

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Brooklyntreez wrote:
Now how do I cram 2x 7950?

I put mine in slot 1 and slot 4. When you put the cards in the OS will try to reconfigure the PCI slots to be as fast as possible for the cards. Mine ended up being 16x for slot 1 and 8x for slot 4.
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BruceX: Try this new Final Cut Pro X benchmark 28 Dec 2013 15:43 #37517

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Nice work tpayton!

Quick question for you: how did you manage to fit the 5770 in the top slot 4? My understanding is that the 5770 is a double width gpu. Did you modify the physical bracket connection on the GPU? Or perhaps there is a single width model out there? Any insight on that would be much appreciated.

Lastly, just a heads up for folks on 2008 or newer models, the PCIe slots are set permenantly and cannot be reconfigured. The PCIe slot utility only works on 2006 (1,1) and 2007 (2,1) models of the Mac Pro. more info on that here if anyone is curious: support.apple.com/kb/ht2838

Thanks again for sharing your experience here.
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BruceX: Try this new Final Cut Pro X benchmark 28 Dec 2013 18:40 #37545

Well looks like my GPU is showing it's age. The 5870 is still a solid GPU but when 2011 iMac's, and MacBook Pros from the last few years are beating my score due to their GPU (because I would win from a CPU standpoint)…I can see where my bottleneck is. Throwing in a new GPU would probably be a good investment overall unless I get a new machine.
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BruceX: Try this new Final Cut Pro X benchmark 28 Dec 2013 20:28 #37550

What I benefit more from two 5770s or a single 7950... ? Can you fit two 7950s?
I have early 2008 Mac Pro
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BruceX: Try this new Final Cut Pro X benchmark 28 Dec 2013 20:51 #37552

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According to BareFeats:
Out of curiosity, we ran the tests with dual Radeon HD 5770s and got render times only slightly slower than dual 7970s. The 5770s require only one power feed each so we used the two factory standard PCIe power feeds. A pair of them is definitely faster rendering in FCPX 10.1 than any single AMD GPU including the Radeon HD 7970.

So it looks like you are better off with two 5770s.
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BruceX: Try this new Final Cut Pro X benchmark 28 Dec 2013 22:30 #37558

Thank you for your help. I have searched and searched for days on end trying to find out the best set up. I saw several test done at barefeats but I did not see that one. Thank you!
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BruceX: Try this new Final Cut Pro X benchmark 29 Dec 2013 04:04 #37585

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Tom Wolsky wrote:
Does selecting Bruce X and using the Send to Compressor function to Compressor 4.1 produce a SBOD when you try to add outputs? Have to force quit the app with this project.

Same here. With Send to Compressor the app hangs and I have to force quit.

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BruceX: Try this new Final Cut Pro X benchmark 29 Dec 2013 04:21 #37586

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Not me. I don't have to force quit. It crashes for me.
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