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TOPIC: External HD USB 3 7200rpm vs. Thunderbolt 5400rpm

External HD USB 3 7200rpm vs. Thunderbolt 5400rpm 11 Nov 2014 23:34 #55821

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Hi,

Related to my previous post, I'm trying to buy a MBP to use FCP X.

I need to choose an external HD but noticed that LaCie only makes 5400rpm drives for 1-2TB.

I read on this board USB 3.0 is good enough as a starter. (I'm planning to shoot short films,
and docs)

Q.
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I guess if I want to shoot feature length stories, I'd better get 2TB and up?

2. Which one is faster? USB 3 at 7200rpm or Thunderbolt at 5400rpm

eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/on-the-go

A guy posted on Amazon that 1TB Thunderbolt was slow and realized he had bought a 5400rpm

www.amazon.com/Lacie-Rugged-Thunderbolt-...ds=thunderbolt+drive
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External HD USB 3 7200rpm vs. Thunderbolt 5400rpm 12 Nov 2014 13:26 #55865

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7200rpm is faster than 5400rpm, no matter what the connection is to the computer.
5400rpm should NEVER be touched as a media drive for video editing.
USB 3 is great for even pro use in video editing.
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External HD USB 3 7200rpm vs. Thunderbolt 5400rpm 12 Nov 2014 16:16 #55873

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7200rpm all the way!
An HDD can't even saturate SATA II at the moment, usb 3 is fine.
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External HD USB 3 7200rpm vs. Thunderbolt 5400rpm 14 Nov 2014 00:06 #55971

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Thank you all,
googling it confirmed that I shouldn't use 5400rpm even for Thunderbolt.

I just have one more question,
has anyone used this external portable drive from OWC?

I know they are trusted brand but the size seems to be little big,
almost the size of an internal desktop HD
5.5"(D) x 3.5"(W) x 1"(H)

eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/on-the-go

For that size/price I might as well get a 2TB and smaller.
I already have one, but I use it for non-video related, windows back up use.

www.amazon.com/Passport-Ultra-Portable-E...usb+3+external+drive

Question
There's nothing wrong w/ using the WD one for video editing, right?
I don't need FW800 which is on the OWC HD so price/size wise, WD one looks better.

*I'll be doing video editing for my short or feature documentary.

Thank you!
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External HD USB 3 7200rpm vs. Thunderbolt 5400rpm 14 Nov 2014 04:17 #55981

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I realize there is no info about the speed (7200rpm) for the WD drive.
I guess it's not 7200rpm
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External HD USB 3 7200rpm vs. Thunderbolt 5400rpm 14 Nov 2014 14:53 #56027

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OWC makes great products. Long as it is 7200rpm and either USB 3 (assuming your Mac has USB 3.0 ports, not USB 2.0) or T'bolt, you're good to go.
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External HD USB 3 7200rpm vs. Thunderbolt 5400rpm 14 Nov 2014 15:07 #56029

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No, those WD drives are not 7200 RPM.

If you're on a tight budget, consider this. Get WD now and use for your editing, as you grow then buy better drives for editing and relegate this WD to backup. You have thought about and included backup in the budget, right :woohoo:

The overall length of your projects isn't so much the problem, it is more about the source footage. AVCHD H.264 is very disk intensive, for example. So depending on how much color correcting, adding Effects, layering generators, etc. you do then the slower the drive becomes an issue. That said, when you import your clips, if you transcode to Proxy or Optimized (ProRes) then disk I/O will effectively improve. Since you're getting the good modern rMBP and talking about "short" Projects, the time hit probably wouldn't be too bad.

If you're willing to scout around I would imagine you might find a 7200 RPM spindle HD that's just USB3 for a better price. But if you need to just get going, I contend the 5400 will get you started. That dual interface OWC drive is just not the right fit for you
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External HD USB 3 7200rpm vs. Thunderbolt 5400rpm 14 Nov 2014 15:40 #56039

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The 1TB OWC On-The-Go drive is great. They are 7200rpm drives, and USB 3.0. I use a couple and love them. The 2TB is 5200rpm, due to heat issues, so stay away from that one. Most bus powered drives larger than 1tB are going to be 5400rpm due to power consumption and heat issues.

I'll say from experience, even SD short projects on any 5400rpm drive will eventually drive you crazy. Spend the extra few bucks.
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External HD USB 3 7200rpm vs. Thunderbolt 5400rpm 14 Nov 2014 16:09 #56044

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BenB wrote:
The 2TB is 5200rpm, due to heat issues, so stay away from that one. Most bus powered drives larger than 1tB are going to be 5400rpm due to power consumption and heat issues.

I'll say from experience, even SD short projects on any 5400rpm drive will eventually drive you crazy. Spend the extra few bucks.


Well, that's interesting, even slower. Also I did not know the variations based on larger capacities.
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External HD USB 3 7200rpm vs. Thunderbolt 5400rpm 14 Nov 2014 17:02 #56049

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Personally I now stay away from WD portable drives.
WD has decided to add password required protection into drive firmware, big PITA.
Also WD drives are not real reliable over long haul. HGST (Hitachi) drives are proving to be most reliable, who knew.

I recommend getting a USB3 dock that has USAP enabled and buy bare drives to stick in and swap out.
Check out the StarTech docks with USAP.
The dual and quad bay docks can be configured as RAID 0/1 via Disk Utility increasing speed if needed. They also support cloning. Not bus powered however.
Other USB3 docks/enclosures out there but not all support UASP.

Also see this article by Larry Jordan explaining throughput requirements for various codecs and I/O connections.
Link… www.larryjordan.biz/app_bin/wordpress/archives/2559

Hope this helps, Greg
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