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So? How does everyone? 30 Jun 2012 12:31 #10676

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ok...here it is..how does everyone like or dislike FCPX at this time...what would you like see added in the next 10.06....apple may be seeing this..
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Re: So? How does everyone? 30 Jun 2012 16:46 #10687

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Love it. Here's what's keeping me from moving everything over to it, and switching our other editors:

-The biggie... Ability to get finishing elements out. As lame as it is, We still need EDL's. I'm beta testing an app to do just that, so hopefully that'll be a non-issue soon. Also need OMF/AAF export since most post house still finish stuff on AVID. X2Pro works for audio, but has a couple bugs/issues that stop me from using it. If they get that sorted out, that takes care of audio. Exporting roles as stems is not really a solution as it comps everything. We still need an Automatic Duck style solution to make video OMF/AAF's so sequences can be opened and relinked on other NLE's. Someday XML will take over that role, but we're not there yet.

-Better relinking feedback is needed, and it needs to be more forgiving. I had a master clip that somehow had it's modification date changed. Nothing else changed at all. FCPX showed it as offline/modified and would not relink it. Every attempt caused a crash. Fortunately i had a backup of the file with the original mod date. Replaced it in the finder, opened FCPX and it was fine. Without the backup I would have been screwed. It should be more like FCP 7 and let you relink anything you want, even if it's wrong. :-)

Other than those 2 things, it's mostly just interface and performance issues...
-clip height adjustment in timeline with 1 button, not that pop up menu thing
-playhead to playhead replace edit
-shortcut to add fades on clips without going into the video animation pile or grabbing audio
fade handles
-change default fade duration
-selective copy/paste attributes
-ability to select more than one project at a time in the project library. I have dozens of projects for any one event and organizing them into separate folders one at a time is a huge PITA.

Other than making it more bullet proof, that's it off the top of my head... :-)
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Re: So? How does everyone? 30 Jun 2012 18:15 #10692

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great!...any one else.....come on all....we know we love it (fcpx) and were going to stay with it.....but we need to let apple know....the more we talk...the more they listen...WE HOPE...
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Re: So? How does everyone? 30 Jun 2012 21:44 #10694

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I have to say, Im fairly new to the game (began my editing at USC in the late 80's on Toaster, but took about 15 years off with restaurants)... but in some sense that also means I don't have a jaded perspective. I started on FCP 7 and PP, and I still own both as well as X. When it looked like the writing was on the wall with the introduction to X, I too started working in Premier when it looked like everyone was jumping ship. I didn't want to be left to drown. But as my business started to really grow and we had shorter and shorter time frames, I found myself migrating back to X, and then figuring out ways to do the same work I was doing in Premier faster and better in X. Now I edit almost exclusively in X and happy to be among those who embrace it wholeheartedly. Now if we could simply have some hardware to match I would be a very happy camper.
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Re: So? How does everyone? 30 Jun 2012 22:21 #10696

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There are no deal breakers for me. What lacks I've found acceptable work arounds and hope to see these things addressed over time.

Xto7 is going to support XML to ProTools soon, as was announced at LAFCPUG. Wonder why it's not Logic Pro compatible, or maybe it will be. Atomos is putting FCPXML compatibility into their devices. Things are starting to take off.

AATranslator is coming out with a way for us to FCPXML to Logic Pro soon which will be a godsend for me, personally. Half my studio is music production and audio processing, all based on Logic Pro.

It "looks like" Sony's Sound Forge is coming to the Mac, also. And if it does I hope Sony has FCPXML support, too.
http://www.finallyonthemac.com/

Deal breakers? None. Things I wish it had? Lots. But name me one NLE that has 100% of everything you'd want. Doesn't exist. FCP X simply has a speed in it's workflow that can't be beat.

And as a trainer, there were parts of 7 and earlier that were simply nightmares to teach people. And I've taught editors from major broadcast and cable news agencies. Everyone left the legacy classes telling me, and emailing me later, how much faster they were getting work turned around because the learned to use FCP "properly". If you want to be fast on any NLE, you have to get some proper training.

With FCP X, students pick up everything right away. It's fun to teach. And the feedback I get from the seasoned pros in my classes weeks later are all the same. They are having "fun" editing again, and are getting work done faster, and find themselves with more creative time rather than mechanical time.

* Are there things I'm not thrilled with? Yes in deed there are!
* Has Apple pissed me off as a user and a trainer? You better believe it!
* Are there any "deal breakers"? Not a single one. Still loving it. Hoping the future growth over it's second year supersedes the first.

Funny that on the Apple pro app forum they still use an icon of a row of old "Studio" boxes. You'd think they'd update that. Apple, love the products, the company is irritating.
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Re: So? How does everyone? 30 Jun 2012 23:25 #10704

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Why not just take a look in the what's [url=http://http://www.fcp.co/forum/4-final-cut-pro-x-fcpx/10612-what-can-7-do-that-x-can-t-really]still missing from 7 thread?[/url]

Anyway like everyone has said there are no deal breakers for me either but here's what I'd like to see most of all in 10.0.6

A Range selection tool that cuts across ALL tracks.
The ability to cut and paste effects individually as well as their attributes. I'd also like to be able to drag effects from the inspector to other clips and a dedicated favorites area.
Dual viewers that can be displayed on a second monitor with the timeline underneath. Legacy mode.
Send to Motion, and if that's too hard then add a tracker to FCP.
The ability to have alternate names for Favourite clips.

That will do for now. :P
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Re: So? How does everyone? 09 Oct 2012 09:52 #14848

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plysat wrote:
X2Pro works for audio, but has a couple bugs/issues that stop me from using it. If they get that sorted out, that takes care of audio. Exporting roles as stems is not really a solution as it comps everything.

Hi plysat,

I'm the Product Manager of X2Pro and would love to hear about the issues that you have that stop you from using it. Is this with V2 that was released last week or V1.1?

If you want to contact me via This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. then perhaps we can figure out how to improve the product to better fit your needs? We've had lots of conversations like this with users over the last 9 months and they have made the product what it is today.

Thanks for your interest.
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Re: So? How does everyone? 09 Oct 2012 14:58 #14853

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Hi Chris, the only issue was with V 1.1 due to the file size/lack of media trimming. Version 2.0 is amazing and has solved that problem. Thanks!
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plysat wrote:
X2Pro works for audio, but has a couple bugs/issues that stop me from using it. If they get that sorted out, that takes care of audio. Exporting roles as stems is not really a solution as it comps everything.

Hi plysat,

I'm the Product Manager of X2Pro and would love to hear about the issues that you have that stop you from using it. Is this with V2 that was released last week or V1.1?

If you want to contact me via This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. then perhaps we can figure out how to improve the product to better fit your needs? We've had lots of conversations like this with users over the last 9 months and they have made the product what it is today.

Thanks for your interest.
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