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AS10 mxf export 10 Jan 2018 07:02 #93100

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Does someone have ever exported an AS10 compatible export for TV..
We've done yesterday an XDCAM HD 422 50Mbit/s 25i with 4 channel audio mxf export, and the analyse of the file by the tv comeback with errors.
Some experiences ?
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AS10 mxf export 10 Jan 2018 13:30 #93105

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I submit MXF for broadcast weekly. What were the specific errors you were given?
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AS10 mxf export 10 Jan 2018 13:42 #93107

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Here's the report of the software from TF1. Does it mean something for you ?
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AS10 mxf export 10 Jan 2018 13:55 #93108

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errors comments are P7
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AS10 mxf export 10 Jan 2018 18:14 #93114

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Here’s some kind of answer...:

www.broadcast-news.fr/fichier-mxf-pad-xdcam/

Encoding your ProRes export with Adobe Media Encoder shoud be ok. Has to be double checked.
In Compressor, there is no AS10 mxf profile. Unfortunatly.
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AS10 mxf export 11 Jan 2018 05:04 #93117

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you have installed the latest version Pro Video Formats …?
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AS10 mxf export 11 Jan 2018 07:17 #93120

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Hub wrote:
Here’s some kind of answer...:

www.broadcast-news.fr/fichier-mxf-pad-xdcam/

Encoding your ProRes export with Adobe Media Encoder shoud be ok. Has to be double checked.
In Compressor, there is no AS10 mxf profile. Unfortunatly.

I've ever read this document from broadcast news and I was expecting that it's a problem of AS10 profile.
In a first time we're going to take Media Encoder or Premiere to do it but dislike to play with the dark side of the force.
Thank you Hub ...
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AS10 mxf export 11 Jan 2018 07:19 #93121

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Karsten Schlüter wrote:
you have installed the latest version Pro Video Formats …?

Yes I have.

Does people who send AS10 mxf profile to broadcaster, passed thru software test like us in France ?
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AS10 mxf export 11 Jan 2018 10:10 #93123

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I suspect most people on the forum using MXF export settings use OP1A. Is AS10 common to France only?
Looking at your first post on the subject, I see you mention a 4 channel audio export.
I thought MXF had to be an 8 channel audio export, even if 4 channels are empty?
Just a thought, but are you losing valuable metadata by only exporting 4 channels and this is causing problems when the TV company import the material?
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AS10 mxf export 11 Jan 2018 16:12 #93132

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If I was handed that report, I'd immediately call them and ask for the specific details, what needs is not "in conformance" (which is a super vague word). Even having read the white papers on AS10, I'm not exactly sure, but I think that could be metadata formatting, specific to AS10. This is new-is MXF sub-format, and yeah, since CNN, Harmony and Sony use this now, Apple needs to add it to our preset selections. Or give us more detailed control over MXF parameters (not to mention support for closed captioning in MXF formats).
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AS10 mxf export 11 Jan 2018 17:43 #93139

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I had call them, but even the broadcaster's contact couldn't tell me exactly why that was not in conformance. Only their software know it !
For sure it's not a signal problem but certainly the order of some metadata.
In France, most of the main broadcasters use this specific AS10 and I'm going to send some requirements to Apple to have as soon as possible an AS10 preset in compressor.
For information, our file compressed with Premiere has been validated.
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AS10 mxf export 11 Jan 2018 17:54 #93140

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Feedback sent ! ;)
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AS10 mxf export 12 Jan 2018 12:13 #93168

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Yes, sadly, as much as I use and love it, Compressor is woefully out of date and far behind the demand of today's film and broadcast industries. The same team handles Compressor and Motion, and I wonder, if they're an independent team, not even in the same physical location as the FCPX team, what do they do all day?
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AS10 mxf export 12 Jan 2018 21:52 #93217

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If you happen to already be an Adobe CC subscriber you could try Adobe Media Encoder. It contains an AS-10 MXF export template.
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