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12 fps ? (old film feel) 01 Nov 2019 14:25 #102389

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Hi guys

Do you know a way to set up the FPS of the project to 12 fps ? I want to give an "old film" feel

Alternatively, are there plugins who will replace one frame out of 2 by the former frame ?

Thank you !

EDIT: found this: www.fcp.co/forum/simulated-effects/17238-frame-rate-emulator

EDIT 2: plugin not working well, welcoming other solutions
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12 fps ? (old film feel) 01 Nov 2019 16:57 #102391

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Just a wild guess, but could the Retiming editor be used for this?
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12 fps ? (old film feel) 01 Nov 2019 18:05 #102394

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There are some tricks using the XML file from FCPX and modifying the framerate, but I have not tried it and it seems a bit convoluted. You may be better off using Compressor to export your master file as it has default settings that include 12 FPS. Also - as far as I know, most old movies were typically at 18 to 22 FPS, but that 's probably irrelevant. As far as plugins go, check out Luca VisualFX "Old Time Movie" available through FX Factory. It has an amazing set of parameters to provide that old time look, including the old title cards.

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12 fps ? (old film feel) 01 Nov 2019 23:33 #102420

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Jonathan Levin wrote:
Just a wild guess, but could the Retiming editor be used for this?

I don't think it can.
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12 fps ? (old film feel) 01 Nov 2019 23:38 #102421

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Thanks a lot @dgwvideo, that's helpful ! I didn't think of compressor
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12 fps ? (old film feel) 02 Nov 2019 11:13 #102429

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Jonathan Levin wrote:
Just a wild guess, but could the Retiming editor be used for this?

Thought you might be able to skip every other frame in a 24p timeline with 200% speed, alt+g and then slow the compound down to 50% - no frame blending or optical flow. You would have had a 24p output, but with the same look. Unfortunately, the motion then looks like the original clip. So nesting doesn't do the trick. Then I thought of re-importing the sped-up compound and again slowing it down. That's what I had done with the first few minutes of LOTR ("the world has changed ...") to see how 12 fps compare to The Hobbit's 48 fps. Try it just for fun: if 24 fps looks better than 48 fps, then 12 fps look epic. A good recipe for wedding videographers. Don't use higher frame rates for your bridal kiss slomo, let 12 fps rock!
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12 fps ? (old film feel) 03 Nov 2019 15:57 #102448

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Wondeering if Boris Continuum Complete Posterize Time might be set to display every other frame for 2 frames such that you have 12 frames per second, each frame is shown twice.
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12 fps ? (old film feel) 04 Nov 2019 12:45 #102457

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Motion has a filter that sets how many frames to skip. Maybe an effect or something with that in it? Or simply use that filter in Motion and export a new clip to use in FCPX?
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