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Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3 21 Oct 2016 20:03 #81077

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I'm with SUGARHILL and DAVECHAP here.

Why users of the forum have to be censored or banned? I didn't sign any NDA with anyone.

Are you going to ban any link to 9to5mac or Mark Gurman's twitter account? With what standard, I'm confident that Apple didn't tell you exactly point by point every single update the new version will have. So how are you going to decide what is speculation and what is breaking an NDA (which you should first check with the user if he signed it)?

With this kind of actions you are policing more than Apple itself. How many videos are on youtube about the iPhone 7 before it was even presented in the keynote? Does are still there and many of the youtubers who made them are invited to the Apple Keynotes anyway.

As Sugarhill says, this is a forum and we need as many talented users as possible.
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Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3 21 Oct 2016 21:41 #81080

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Tim Cooks brother sold a hamster to my sisters boyfriend and I can say with ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY that it's going to be renamed fcp XTREME. have a lime green spandex ui and the ability to shoot death rays from the webcam.

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Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3 21 Oct 2016 21:55 #81082

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Seamusvfx wrote: Tim Cooks brother sold a hamster to my sisters boyfriend and I can say with ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY that it's going to be renamed fcp XTREME. have a lime green spandex ui and the ability to shoot death rays from the webcam.


Did he call it a hAmster?

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Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3 21 Oct 2016 22:16 #81083

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I can't tell you that..NDA...but I'll tell you I have seen the hamster, and it's a BIG change from current hamsters... I realise that's not a helpful comment, but it's important for my ego you know I have access to beta hamsters and have seen things that would blow the minds of you non-beta plebs.

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Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3 22 Oct 2016 04:52 #81086

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As long as the hamster gets to run in a ball, then I am happy for the hamster, wheels are so boring and limiting...

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Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3 22 Oct 2016 06:14 #81087

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canelson wrote: …Why users of the forum have to be censored or banned?….


… … my goodness, how many times has this to be explained???
This is no public park where you climb on your wooden box and yell out whatever you want.

This is a privately owned & controlled website, Mr Wiggins is legally liable for ANYthing published here!
Not you, not me, not hiddenbehindnic2000 ...

Just to put into perspective: topic is some tiny piece of software for some tiny niché of market - the manufacturer defines his rules, and the owner of this site his … respect it. Or leave it.

But don't whine about 'censorship' - ask people who experience(d) what censorship really means.



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… As if the Internet was invented yesterday … :angry:

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Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3 22 Oct 2016 09:25 #81090

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Folks,

Had to do a bit of pruning on some of the posts as there seemed to be a pretty blatant flout of the NDA.
Please keep it to what we know and what we can publish.

Peter
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Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3 22 Oct 2016 09:55 #81091

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Hey Pete,

I feel your pain bud, like a night out at The Blue Posts.

Respectfully adhering to Apple's NDA should be commended and posts monitored.

"This is no public park where you climb on your wooden box and yell out whatever you want" ....err, the irony.

When Everybody Zigs, Zag

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Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3 22 Oct 2016 09:55 #81092

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"Life is like a box of chocolates.....

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Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3 22 Oct 2016 09:57 #81093

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waternyc wrote: "Life is like a box of chocolates.....


...whats that? Everybody wants one and you hope you get he best selection?

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Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3 22 Oct 2016 09:59 #81094

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I'll leave it up to each to decide. B)

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Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3 22 Oct 2016 12:33 #81097

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waternyc wrote: "Life is like a box of chocolates.....


You can enjoy them if you have the money? :P

AND... do NOT install the update ASAP unless you are willing to deal with potential bugs, pitfalls, etc. NEVER update mid-production. ALWAYS back up your system entirely before upgrading, including a copy of FCPX 10.2. Expect the best, be prepared for the worst. Life falls somewhere in-between.

I'd also like to share the gist of conversations I had with two different plugin developer recently. It isn't always in a plugin developers best interest to work with a beta copy of an app. Because the app developer is tweeking code to make it more efficient, fix bugs, add new features. The third party developer could potentially be knocked back and have wasted weeks of work with each turn. Thus, they usually wait for a final product to be released before updating their plugins. When the app is no longer going through daily metamorphosis and is static. Just FYI for those wondering why plugins aren't updated the same day as an app.

And to clarify something, my comment about banning someone, was specifically about someone who joined this forum with the singular intent to claim knowledge of the next FCPX release and claim to leak hearsay details. Not someone who joined this forum to help folks with their daily work.

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Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3 22 Oct 2016 15:35 #81102

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EditorGuy wrote:
The third party developer could potentially be knocked back and have wasted weeks of work with each turn. Thus, they usually wait for a final product to be released before updating their plugins. When the app is no longer going through daily metamorphosis and is static.


I always understood, the purpose of the beta process was to ‘test’ the new code for compatibility and usability … not re-write the code apps/plugins on the fly so as to offer reliable and accurate feedback to the parent developer so they knew where their code required adjustment and/or improvement.

I understand when third party developers wait until the GM version is released to actually update their products – I have no time for the folks who do nothing until that time. Although when developer beta programs are offered to third party developers, they should be participating in the process taking notes and offering valuable feedback with an experienced point of view so as to alleviate we end users from the process to ‘beta’ test for them after the official release.

As well as … plugin developers should openly inform their users when incompatibility issues exist before the final release of new apps or OS updates. If they participate in the process, they would be aware of such issues ahead of the release.

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Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3 22 Oct 2016 15:41 #81103

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There is a developer version where third party can adjust there code so its will run on the new "engine" code.
It is smart to develop on this version to 1 get your plugin up to date on the release 2 for performance adjustments 3 new technology

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Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3 22 Oct 2016 22:34 #81114

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Beta testing finds bugs, that means some code has to be rewritten, and sometimes it means it adversity effects other parts of code, and more has to be rewritten. Otherwise, how would bugs be fixed?

Third party developers, to my knowledge, are not all invited to beta testing of all apps. I've no idea how the process of choosing who is invited and who isn't works, but I know some developers are not invited. Very few have updates the day of a release.

I know of no "developer version" of FCPX. I've never seen or heard of one. For the OS, yes. But I've never seen one for individual apps.

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Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3 23 Oct 2016 16:00 #81127

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Karsten Schlüter wrote:

canelson wrote: …Why users of the forum have to be censored or banned?….


… … my goodness, how many times has this to be explained???
This is no public park where you climb on your wooden box and yell out whatever you want.

This is a privately owned & controlled website, Mr Wiggins is legally liable for ANYthing published here!
Not you, not me, not hiddenbehindnic2000 ...

Just to put into perspective: topic is some tiny piece of software for some tiny niché of market - the manufacturer defines his rules, and the owner of this site his … respect it. Or leave it.

:angry:


Okay thanks for explanation maybe worth to think about to put a note in the www.fcp.co/terms-and-conditions page ... just as an idea. Don't see/find a reference there .

And THANKS to Mr Wiggins to host the site!! (no irony although it might sound as such from a German standpoint) ;-))

Tobias

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Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3 23 Oct 2016 19:43 #81134

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I heard this next release will have pink flowers in the menus and unicorns floating across the screen...

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Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3 23 Oct 2016 20:22 #81135

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EditorGuy wrote: I heard this next release will have pink flowers in the menus and unicorns floating across the screen...


I think your source may not be legit.

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Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3 24 Oct 2016 08:54 #81141

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damiangrady wrote:

EditorGuy wrote: I heard this next release will have pink flowers in the menus and unicorns floating across the screen...


I think your source may not be legit.


The flowers are actually rose gold

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Waiting on 10.2.4 and 10.3 24 Oct 2016 11:14 #81142

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With Space Gray Unicorns and Flat Black is a default keyword collection.

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