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Apple Updates Final Cut Pro to 10.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.1 14 Dec 2020 18:04 #111485

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We thought it wouldn't take long before updates were released to the Apple Silicon compatible Pro Apps. Final Cut Pro and Compressor get an extra feature and stability improvements. Big Sur and iMovie get some love too. We also have a new Apple Wsupport article on sharing.

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Apple Updates Final Cut Pro to 10.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.1 14 Dec 2020 20:09 #111487

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We had FB and YT presets already. Seems 10.5 kept the two separate, and then 10.5.1 combined them. Now, it just writes a file to your drive, it doesn't upload them for you, thank goodness.

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Apple Updates Final Cut Pro to 10.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.1 14 Dec 2020 21:42 #111491

Oh no! They make it worse! I use that upload function to Youtube everyday! Apple why?? Normally I back up FCPX, this time I didn't!

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Apple Updates Final Cut Pro to 10.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.1 15 Dec 2020 01:46 #111497

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It always crapped out when I used it. Lots of my students had bad experiences with it. I've run some tests and this new one is much faster, does a much better job, and it's one preset, not two separate ones.

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Apple Updates Final Cut Pro to 10.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.1 15 Dec 2020 04:33 #111499

This is kind of crazy. They have basically removed the previous function – this is now just a simple (and simplified) H.264 exporting preset, that has no real connection to either Facebook or Youtube. It is quite baffling really, especially rolling out an update with nothing but this downgrade – my suspicion is that they want to distance themselves from google and facebook, for some legal or corporate-political reason? Now Youtube/Facebook logos are not in FCP and FCP does not have "direct" contact with their servers...

Luckily I mostly upload to Vimeo, which has an app/plug-in that appears in FCP.

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Apple Updates Final Cut Pro to 10.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.1 15 Dec 2020 05:05 #111500

Part of the reason for the change is that Facebook no longer allows direct uploads to their system. I could never get it to work either. Exporting a master file and then upload with FireFox has been pretty bulletproof for me.

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Apple Updates Final Cut Pro to 10.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.1 15 Dec 2020 16:25 #111511

Thanks! Very interesting!

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Apple Updates Final Cut Pro to 10.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.1 15 Dec 2020 19:58 #111513

This sucks big time! The direct upload from within the program is part of my daily workflow - I do not need a simple mp4 export preset instead and do additional steps outside the program and a browser instead. They took away a very important feature and replaced it with a simple export preset and call it a new feature for an update... Luckily I backed up my copy of 10.5.0... You suck big time Apple! Who is the idiot who decided to do away with this feature?

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Apple Updates Final Cut Pro to 10.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.1 15 Dec 2020 22:11 #111515

Removing direct Youtube upload is YET ANOTHER thing that further complicates working with FCPX. What was an one-step process that worked 100% of the time and didn't require me to wait for the export to finish is now a multi-step journey of wasted time.

This and the case of missing render files might actually be what pushes me over the edge. It's just becoming less and less a tool that saves work. The issues and annoyances keep piling up. I love editing with X and been there since literally day one in 2011 but it's becoming too much lately.

I think there will be actually some stink about this from the Youtube creators community as they largely rely on stuff like this. Premiere has it and FCPX is the number 2 most used NLE for Youtubers. Maybe a 3rd-party dev can pick this up.

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Apple Updates Final Cut Pro to 10.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.1 17 Dec 2020 13:42 #111550

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Where did you get the data showing FCP to be the number 2 used NLE? I wish we could get all those analytics ourselves.

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Apple Updates Final Cut Pro to 10.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.1 18 Dec 2020 15:36 #111589

Ben Balser wrote: I've run some tests and this new one is much faster, does a much better job, and it's one preset, not two separate ones.

Excuse me? 😂 What are you talking about?

"Much faster"??
How in the world could that be since it's nothing more than a regular H.264 export, only sans the upload! So I guess it's faster because it doesn't spend time uploading after rendering? Er… well duh! There's zero reason why the render should be any faster. That makes no sense.

"One preset, not two"??
Wow. So HOW exactly could they previously have been ONE destination when each used different direct APIs?? 🤦🏼‍♂️

I don't even get why they bothered making some extra "special" YT and Vimeo destination since this is nothing other than the "Apple Devices" destinations! Why not just call it UPLOAD FILE or something along those lines since there is absolutely nothing special let alone YT or Vimeo specific about the generated files!

This makes no sense and the fact that you NOW have to add the description and all the tags after the fact instead of simply adding them ONCE in FCP and having them upload automatically with the file via the API is a serious step BACK! Why did they do this??

That said, something like this, that is obviously utterly banal in the grand scheme of things, supposedly "pushing someone over the edge" is of course just jejune hyperbole. 🙄

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Apple Updates Final Cut Pro to 10.5.1 and Compressor to 4.5.1 18 Dec 2020 16:44 #111591

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We are discussing the "YouTube & Facebook" preset introduced in the update. Apple recommends users employ Vimeo's own upload manager which is downloadable for free in the App Store.

With EU restrictions coming and all of the pending lawsuits we can reasonably expect changes will be made outside of Apple's control, and you'll probably see the other NLEs follow suit very soon.

The encoding of any file format is complex. H.264 has many variables that can be tweaked, look at it in Compressor. Apple is able to tweak their own custom settings further to work with their hardware and OS even more. All of which have a bearing on image quality and encoding times.

I timed exports and the new preset is a bit faster. I did not include upload times, just looking at the encodes themselves, which are significant quality improvements over the previous supplied preset.

I have always been able to export and upload faster than the old presets did on their own, anyway. I do this several times a day for my job. But hey, that's just one person's experience. Others may experience something different due to hardware and software variations.

Again, social media sites are being forced to restrict what third-party apps can do with their site now, so this is not Apple acting on its own.

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