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New iMacs at WWDC! Holy Crap! 05 Jun 2017 17:52 #88599

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Wow... they're really pumpin up the graphics!
10bit displays!

And sneak peek at iMac Pro!!! (up to 18-core Xeon! Radeon Vega graphics...)
But starting at $4999 :(

And MacOS support for external graphics!

(new MacBook Pros as well)

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New iMacs at WWDC! Holy Crap! 05 Jun 2017 18:16 #88600

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the 5k iMacPRo in max configuration (18core, 4TB SSD, etc ) must be somewhere 15-20.ooo$
spacegrey - nice*

Like the upgrades to the 'normal' iMacs either....
h.265 support, lots of VR (Alex G: happy), metal2 …

pretty sure, next FCPX (service) update comes soon…


* speaking of design: Sir Jony Ive in the first row! A first after two years...
My assumptions about his departure were highly exaggerated … :silly:

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New iMacs at WWDC! Holy Crap! 05 Jun 2017 18:47 #88602

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Yeah, the iMac Pro looks really impressive, but it suffers from the same problems that the nMP did (limited upgradablility and custimisation)...

But the new regular iMacs look good enough to me...

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New iMacs at WWDC! Holy Crap! 05 Jun 2017 19:45 #88607

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With 4 T'bolt 3 ports, and macOS native external GPU support, what is left to upgrade?

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New iMacs at WWDC! Holy Crap! 05 Jun 2017 20:32 #88612

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DmitriZigany wrote: ....But the new regular iMacs look good enough to me...


They are pretty good but H264 4k has caused a sea change in what editors need. Everything is just so slow on 4k -- transcoding, effects, etc. The large doc project I'm on is all 4k and it takes my top-spec 2015 iMac 27 three days to create proxies for the content to date, which is only about 1/3 of the expected total (probably 10-12 terabytes). It will take a week to create proxies for the final content. If anything messes them up and a proxy rebuild is needed -- that's another week. The only thing that can accelerate that is lots of cores, or else some kind of distributed transcoding farm. The 18-core iMac Pro will be pretty nice.

Effects can often harness the GPU, but not all effects can. Things like video noise reduction, de-flickering and stabilization are just mind-numbingly slow on 4k. Basically anybody editing large amounts of 4k (esp multicam) needs the fastest possible CPU and GPU they can obtain, and of course high-speed Thunderbolt RAID.

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New iMacs at WWDC! Holy Crap! 05 Jun 2017 20:46 #88613

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I'm happy that the top of the line (max graphics & processor, minumum other specs) regular iMac now is about €370 cheaper!!

I'm sure some people absulutely need the iMac Pro. But the problem is that it seems to be the same non-upgradable thing as the "trashcan" Mac Pro. So seems like it's just a stop-gap until the next Mac Pro come.

I'm on a 2012 MacBook Pro so the new regular iMac will be a massive boost for me (when/if I can afford it).

I can only buy things when I can pay in cash in full... which is why Apple's current all-or-nothing computers are badfor me.
I wish they release an upgradable Mac without things I don't need,such as Xeon processors and EEC ram that just makes them expensive... But had space for extra graphics and ramand harddrives... So you can buy a stripped down version and add things as you need/can afford them... But that seems unlikely, it's iMac or super high end. I'd be very happy with an iMac though.

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New iMacs at WWDC! Holy Crap! 05 Jun 2017 21:05 #88615

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DmitriZigany wrote: ....So seems like it's just a stop-gap until the next Mac Pro come....


The iMac Pro specs are way beyond what I was expecting. It is much faster than the current Mac Pro. That plus the delayed timeframe on the updated Mac Pro might indicate Apple originally planned to let the Mac Pro die out. The development of the iMac Pro is well along otherwise they couldn't ship it in December. Putting an 18-core Xeon in the iMac Pro is very aggressive. If they had originally planned on an updated Mac Pro they'd have been more conservative on the iMac Pro, and the Mac Pro would not be so delayed. But that's OK -- now we get a fantastic iMac Pro and (while delayed) Apple will produce a Mac Pro which will likely scale to the highest workstation range.

DmitriZigany wrote: ....I'm on a 2012 MacBook Pro so the new regular iMac will be a massive boost for me (when/if I can afford it).


That is certainly true. I have a top-spec 2015 MBP, and (while nice) I always use my iMac 27 if given the choice. The iMac is just much faster, quieter and more comfortable and the larger screen really helps.

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New iMacs at WWDC! Holy Crap! 05 Jun 2017 23:44 #88619

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joema wrote:
The iMac Pro specs are way beyond what I was expecting. It is much faster than the current Mac Pro. That plus the delayed timeframe on the updated Mac Pro might indicate Apple originally planned to let the Mac Pro die out.





Kinda makes sense that they were planning to let it die out... because although the iMac Pro is impressive, it has allthe flaws of the trashcan. And the specs in the iMac Pro could have easily been achieved in a new version of the trashcan.
An iMac Pro would make more sense as something between the regular iMac and the Mac Pro in price and power...

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New iMacs at WWDC! Holy Crap! 06 Jun 2017 02:25 #88621

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I want it all
I want it all
I want it all and I want it now

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New iMacs at WWDC! Holy Crap! 12 Sep 2017 17:08 #90474

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Not sure how long this has been up at Apple, but there is a iMacPro page stating coming in December. Lists tech specs but no pricing. First time I have seen date for release.

www.apple.com/imac-pro/

Have fun drooling

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New iMacs at WWDC! Holy Crap! 12 Sep 2017 23:24 #90478

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That's been up since WWDC keynote when it was announced.

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